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Post by tommycharles on May 23, 2015 3:13:12 GMT
...particularly during things like My Generation, I can't help being a bit sad about Pete's comment the other day about how they "don't jam anymore." Watching Zak, Pete, and Pino listening and responding to one another is a joy. I don't think I appreciated at the time how well they were playing during the Endless Wire tour - at the time, I remember thinking that Zak seemed bored the whole time, but in retrospect, they were playing extremely well as a group.
For those attending the 2015 tour, does any of that seem evident, still? They're not coming near my area, unfortunately, but I'm curious to see if Pete's estimation is correct.
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Post by Tom on May 23, 2015 15:16:41 GMT
The new "hired guns" are all reading sheet music, I believe. That makes it harder to jam. That's IMO the reason why some songs are played differently now (e.g. "My Generation" in its original key).
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Post by boristhearachnid on May 25, 2015 0:22:04 GMT
It's the Frank and Roger show now - I've no issue with it but it is run very tight.
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Post by Tom on May 25, 2015 13:32:19 GMT
It's too slick, it has lost its raw edge. I can imagine why all the keyboard players were necessary during the Quad tour, but why are they still there?
Why is there a need all of a sudden to have three keyboard players?
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Post by peteisgod on May 26, 2015 15:11:26 GMT
Remind to me Pete saying that they can't jam or include impromptu songs in the setlist anymore because all their shows are now minuted and "choreographed" (the video screen, the lights etc... all that non-essential material)It's now a "standard greatest hit show", like all the other bands, and with too many musicians on stage. I'm not particulary enthusiastic about this tour. Don't want to agravated the debate, but also Roger can't sings some of the classics Who songs on stage anymore (a taboo subject on some Who groups on the social network). All the reviews are ecstatic, but to me it's one of their less interesting recent tour contrary to the Endless Wire one who was really great.
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Post by lazybiff on May 26, 2015 17:25:10 GMT
Got to agree with everything peterisgod has just said, this is a great show, but maybe not one for some of us older fans, going to Hyde park, the least excited I have ever been about seeing the who, to be honest it's a formality for me to turn up, just as it is for Pete and roger
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Post by garethox on May 27, 2015 12:53:20 GMT
Totally agree with the previous two posters - this is one tour too many now IMO. They are just peddling a greatest hits show and the promise of deep cuts etc went by the wayside a long time ago. At the end of the day Roger is singing 17 or 18 songs a night; I have just seen Paul McCartney, who over 2 nights sang 81 songs, yes, 81! He changes the setlists and does really deep cuts. That's not brave, it's just having faith in your own music and having faith in the audience - something The Who don't seem to have. IMO all this has gone downhill since Pete let Rog take control - what was once a glorious, raw live spectacle is now a safe, music by numbers concert with Pete effing and blinding a bit to add some drama. I feel sad and disappointed; it is basically a Roger show with Pete along for the ride and calling it The Who. Y'know they could drop YBYB occasionally and play 5.15 or Drowned. They could easily play My Wife and Bellboy; Music Must Change - anything to keep it fresh. Sorry, but that's how I feel about all this. :-(
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Post by ronmanager on May 27, 2015 14:37:18 GMT
It's too slick, it has lost its raw edge. I can imagine why all the keyboard players were necessary during the Quad tour, but why are they still there? Why is there a need all of a sudden to have three keyboard players? Going only by YouTube clips, but I totally agree with this. With all the extra musicians, the sense of unpredictability that always been there when The Who is on stage is missing. This more clinical approach worked as Quadrophenia was performed in its entirety, but not for "normal" Who shows. As for the set list, it is great that they dusted off songs like A Quick One, Slip Kid and So Sad About Us but the setlist has since become stagnated, as this list of the songs performed during 2015 shows. On a personal note, I'm very surprised and disappointed that they haven't picked up any songs from John's catalog as a tribute, especially considering the theme of the tour. |
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