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Post by slipkid54 on Jun 11, 2009 10:57:19 GMT
Quote from Dragon... Deny it all you want, but Deny it all you want. I respect ppls opinions. Since you don't know me, you technically have no place in making such an assumption. Your post wasn't a constructive opinion, it was a pointless flame post that could be easily considered baiting, since you bashed Keith in a Keith themed thread. That, is trollish.
I don't have a ton of posts here but I have been around for a while. On another forum I have over 7,000 posts. Spend enough time at places like this you can develope kinda a sixth sense about certain patterns and phrasing of posts and you know where it's headed.
In this case some code words and phrases have given me pause. 1) Deny it all you want 2) I respect other ppls opinions 3) You don't know me 4) you technically have no place.... 5) YOUR post was a pointless flame 6) concidered baiting 7) THAT is trollish
And... being new to the board.... and responding to every post in unusual length.... responding to every point of every other post.. and needing to be edited for profanity... and being so opinionated that a normal discusion is not possible. ... AND a number of other things to long to list here.
I have loved THE WHO since the beginning and enjoy what I can share & learn here. I'll admit that Dragon was able to push one of my buttons before I caught on but I know when to stop.
Next, if this follows form, Dragon will say in a lengthy post that I am the problem.
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Post by Dragon Nostalgia on Jun 11, 2009 10:58:30 GMT
Appears we have another pesimist in the audience, everyone........ Uummmm.......Those were horse(or gorilla, I can't remember) tranquilizers, dude, he took a load of tham, but since its enough to bring down a large animal, a human is no match for a heavy dose, or light, nice try. Stop splitting hairs, when it comes to drugs it really doesn't take much to f*ck yourself up enough to a dangerous level, or at least when looking at the big picture,most of these musicains are just lucky. Im not making assumptions, I form my own hypothesis through completely reputable sources, & I feel I've located subtle inconsistancies in things, & I sure hope I don't find a lot of them in Dear Boy. I know a biographer's opinion is as valid as anyone's, & of course there is a lot of conjecture & hypothesizing, on our end, that is the situation with ANY biography. I have my constructive opinions about that entire story, but I do not know if I should clog up this thread with it. I may just begin a new thread. Im well aware of the Who Are You sessions, & Im well aware of the problems involved with his drumming at that time. I know about the overdubbing. The man was burnt out & had let himself go, & his bandmates were well aware of that. I can tell you now that ousting him would have been their biggest mistake, & the band would have died then, just as they died when he died.......Perhaps every event in the band's lives & history was simply meant to be. He just needed to get back on track, & apparently they were growing impatient. They aren't completely to blame, when your making an album, you get rushed at times, because theres a deadline. You don't have to be in a band to know that. His bandmates had the least to do with his problems as others did , including himself, & his addiction & alcoholism was merely the catalyst. Im only angered at flaming & stereotypical ranting about Keith's demons, not healthy & constructive debate about the subject. If only we could see his life & times through HIS eyes......... Pointing out the contradictions and disagreeing with certain points in your post doesn't make me or anyone else a pessimist nor any other name or label you care to attach; it makes us free minded people who happen to have our own opinions. The Cow Palace incident was but one time I indicated to illustrate that Keith had indeed overdosed before the fateful one - remember, you said he hadn't. The type of drug is irrelevant. Surely you concur that an overdose is an overdose? And I think John Entwistle was actually there through much of Keith's life, so I believe the statement he made regarding them having saved Keith many times - that isn't hypothesis nor assumption it is plain fact. P.S They were horse tranquilizers. P.P.S Are you on some kind of mission to alienate as many people as you can in the shortest amount of time? No, I am not on any kind of mission in here, this is merely my opinion . I trust John, dude, I don't know where you get the idea Im denying John is truthful. I didn't say anything about his statement being an assumption or hypothesis. The pessimist comment was just a sarcastic playful jab, perhaps I should have put a . Yes, an overdose is an overdose but the Cow Palace incident was the result of a tranquilizer that is designed to be potent enough to bring down a horse ( I was positive it was a horse tranq, but it had been awhile since I brushed up on a few things LOL) I even said he took a load of them. I was implying that it was irrelevant because of the strength which is enough to knock out a horse.....an animal far larger & heavier than a human. I respect ppl's opinions, I just have my own way of debating subjects that are tender, for lack of a more efficient term. ;D
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Post by Dragon Nostalgia on Jun 11, 2009 11:04:59 GMT
Quote from Dragon... Deny it all you want, but Deny it all you want. I respect ppls opinions. Since you don't know me, you technically have no place in making such an assumption. Your post wasn't a constructive opinion, it was a pointless flame post that could be easily considered baiting, since you bashed Keith in a Keith themed thread. That, is trollish.I don't have a ton of posts here but I have been around for a while. On another forum I have over 7,000 posts. Spend enough time at places like this you can develope kinda a sixth sense about certain patterns and phrasing of posts and you know where it's headed. In this case some code words and phrases have given me pause. 1) Deny it all you want 2) I respect other ppls opinions 3) You don't know me 4) you technically have no place.... 5) YOUR post was a pointless flame 6) concidered baiting 7) THAT is trollish And... being new to the board.... and responding to every post in unusual length.... responding to every point of every other post.. and needing to be edited for profanity... and being so opinionated that a normal discusion is not possible. ... AND a number of other things to long to list here. I have loved THE WHO since the beginning and enjoy what I can share & learn here. I'll admit that Dragon was able to push one of my buttons before I caught on but I know when to stop. Next, if this follows form, Dragon will say in a lengthy post that I am the problem. Im not tyring to push anyone's buttons, we disagreed, & in any social enviornment, that is inevitable. I also can't help it I love to elaborate & cover all my bases. Is this short enough for you? ;D
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Post by Ineedanewname on Jun 11, 2009 12:17:57 GMT
Your post wasn't a constructive opinion, it was a pointless flame post that could be easily considered baiting, since you bashed Keith in a Keith themed thread. That, is trollish. That's not "trollish". As I've pointed to people before, this isn't a forum for blind love (or blind hate!). It's a forum for people to exchange and air opinions, whatever the colour of those opinions. If someone wants to say something negative about Keith Moon in a Keith Moon thread, that's just as fine as someone wanting to praise Keith Moon in a Keith Moon thread. If we're going to be pedantic about what is and what isn't "trollish", let's look at the way this thread has been pulled completely off-topic with all this "troll" nonsense. Is that not trollish? Are those responsible not trolls? Let he (or she) who is without sin....and all that funky jazz.... So. Here is a picture of a troll. Enjoy, then leave behind. Thankyou.
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Post by boristhearachnid on Jun 11, 2009 12:27:30 GMT
Appropriate troll???
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Post by sara on Jun 11, 2009 13:42:15 GMT
I say BIG BAND THEORY cutie Simon Helberg is Keith Moon reincarnated! Yet a tad more well hooked than Moonie himself.
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Post by WhoFanatic on Jun 11, 2009 17:08:01 GMT
Dragon is the ultimate hypocrite..."I respect other people's opinions...but here's why you're a troll and an idiot"...not only that but each and every post beggars belief...there is literally no coherent logic behind them...
Does this forum have an "ignore" function? If so I'd like to begin to use it...
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Post by Ineedanewname on Jun 11, 2009 18:27:51 GMT
Dragon is the ultimate hypocrite..."I respect other people's opinions...but here's why you're a troll and an idiot"...not only that but each and every post beggars belief...there is literally no coherent logic behind them... Does this forum have an "ignore" function? If so I'd like to begin to use it... Right. As all sides have now had their say about this, it's case closed. As I hinted earlier. I won't issue a third warning before reaching for the big red button....
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Post by Dragon Nostalgia on Jun 12, 2009 3:15:55 GMT
Think what you wish about me, all I want by now is to put all this gibberish behind us already, FORGIVE oneanother & MOVE ON...........SlipKid, I accepted your apology a few pages back. ;D Ineedanewname, I also apologized after you warned me.....you apparently failed to notice. My posts after that weren't as blatant, even if you didn't catch it Jeeezzuuuss........ BTW, eeerrmmmm........Threatening to ban me already? With the way human beings operate, uuumm, don't you think if you banned every person after their first incident, there wouldn't be anyone here anymore?..........Just saying, dude, whoa.
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Post by Ineedanewname on Jun 12, 2009 15:54:52 GMT
BTW, eeerrmmmm........Threatening to ban me already? With the way human beings operate, uuumm, don't you think if you banned every person after their first incident, there wouldn't be anyone here anymore?..........Just saying, dude, whoa. I mentioned nothing about banning anyone, daddio. But speaking of bans, in the 5 years this forum has been active I think I've only had to ban 2 members (discounting spammers and trolls), and that was after they ignored repeated warnings about anti-social comments and suchlike. So I'm slightly more tolerant than you give me credit for. Anyway. Move along everyone, nothing to see here.....just like the Keith Moon movie! Did y'all see the crafty way I pulled the thread back on track?
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Post by stush on Jun 12, 2009 17:04:36 GMT
I just do NOT want to see a middle aged American, (Mike Meyers), play Keith. How could it not be Schwartzman, an actual professional drummer/actor, that looks just like Keith? As for the last few pages here, and after doing psychiatric evaluations for over 20 years, all I can say is "WOW!!" Never seen the board so unified.
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Post by Dragon Nostalgia on Jun 12, 2009 23:16:59 GMT
Sorry Ineedanewname, I suppose I embellished that final "big red button" comment, LOL. Anyway, I think Myers could act latter day Keith, but there would be issues with playing early Keith, because of his appearance. Who should play young Keith? IMHO, I think the film should only involve Keith from Who's Next, forward. It'd be the most interesting since all the most sugnifianct events in his life occured then.
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Post by boristhearachnid on Jun 12, 2009 23:21:27 GMT
I just do NOT want to see a middle aged American, (Mike Meyers), play Keith. How could it not be Schwartzman, an actual professional drummer/actor, that looks just like Keith? As for the last few pages here, and after doing psychiatric evaluations for over 20 years, all I can say is "WOW!!" Never seen the board so unified. Ahem,Canadian born in Ontario).
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Post by stush on Jun 13, 2009 2:24:26 GMT
I just do NOT want to see a middle aged American, (Mike Meyers), play Keith. How could it not be Schwartzman, an actual professional drummer/actor, that looks just like Keith? As for the last few pages here, and after doing psychiatric evaluations for over 20 years, all I can say is "WOW!!" Never seen the board so unified. Ahem,Canadian born in Ontario). Like Ontario isn't America? Ironic coming from an Irishman who insists on stating he is from the UK, eh?
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Post by boristhearachnid on Jun 13, 2009 17:07:09 GMT
Ahem,Canadian born in Ontario). Like Ontario isn't America? Ironic coming from an Irishman who insists on stating he is from the UK, eh? Of the Americas - yes but I doubt too many Canadians would see it that way. Now,if you had said that you didn't want some guy from the country that gave the world Bryan Adams I'd understand it.. As far as the latter comment guys,presently I live in a country (Northern Ireland) that is part of the UK - don't recall I denied being Irish though (hard to since I was born in NI) in the same way a Korean is a Korean regardless whether north or south.
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Post by stush on Jun 13, 2009 22:23:45 GMT
Like Ontario isn't America? Ironic coming from an Irishman who insists on stating he is from the UK, eh? Of the Americas - yes but I doubt too many Canadians would see it that way. Now,if you had said that you didn't want some guy from the country that gave the world Bryan Adams I'd understand it.. As far as the latter comment guys,presently I live in a country (Northern Ireland) that is part of the UK - don't recall I denied being Irish though (hard to since I was born in NI) in the same way a Korean is a Korean regardless whether north or south. Doesn't matter what the Canadiens think. They are all residents of the undeclared 51st state. Otherwise, why would so many "American Icons" have been born in Canada. Sarah Palin is more Canadian than M.Myers. I just hope that this is interpreted how it was intended, a stupid joke.
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Post by boristhearachnid on Jun 13, 2009 22:31:48 GMT
Of the Americas - yes but I doubt too many Canadians would see it that way. Now,if you had said that you didn't want some guy from the country that gave the world Bryan Adams I'd understand it.. As far as the latter comment guys,presently I live in a country (Northern Ireland) that is part of the UK - don't recall I denied being Irish though (hard to since I was born in NI) in the same way a Korean is a Korean regardless whether north or south. Doesn't matter what the Canadiens think. They are all residents of the undeclared 51st state. Otherwise, why would so many "American Icons" have been born in Canada. Sarah Palin is more Canadian than M.Myers. I just hope that this is interpreted how it was intended, a stupid joke. Oh,it was.
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Post by vegasvampire on Jun 14, 2009 3:13:55 GMT
Can we please not mention Sarah Palin (gag coff) in the same thread as Keith Moon? C'mon now people....sheesh lol
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Post by WhoFanatic on Jun 15, 2009 11:39:18 GMT
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Post by Raven on Jul 19, 2009 15:12:18 GMT
Hi - Mike Myers IS Canadian AND his Dad was a scouser - if you go to Canada and wish to have violence visited upon you for insulting Canadiens then just continue to tell 'em theyre all American - they dont like it one bit - I have to say I think MM would be perfect as Moonie - thats from a long time Who fan who saw Keith live and is also a drummer.
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Post by lucyzimmerman on Jul 21, 2009 0:51:21 GMT
Has this seriously been in production for twelve years?
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Post by Yellow Printer on Jul 21, 2009 14:17:20 GMT
Has this seriously been in production for twelve years? Only in Rogers' head. Leave Keith alone Roger, give him some peace.
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Post by WhoFanatic on Jul 22, 2009 15:11:11 GMT
Has this seriously been in production for twelve years? Only in Rogers' head.
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Post by vegasvampire on Jul 23, 2009 22:10:38 GMT
I say BIG BAND THEORY cutie Simon Helberg is Keith Moon reincarnated! Yet a tad more well hooked than Moonie himself. as long as he doesn't keep matching his pants and turtlenecks he should be a rather good Keith!! lol
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Post by flashgordon on Jul 30, 2009 13:20:10 GMT
Pretty soon Schwartzman will be too old to play the teen-aged Keith. He's about thirty, isn't he?
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Post by boristhearachnid on Jul 30, 2009 16:29:34 GMT
Pretty soon Schwartzman will be too old to play the teen-aged Keith. He's about thirty, isn't he? Not forgetting the 46 year old Mike Myers!!!
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Post by Nnic on Jul 30, 2009 17:35:47 GMT
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Post by moonlegend on Jul 31, 2009 11:24:00 GMT
Piven would be a good choice i think...hes got that energy
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Post by vegasvampire on Aug 2, 2009 18:20:04 GMT
Piven doesn't get the recognition he deserves as an actor and he IS a fantastic actor.........especially when he plays gay guy parts SO well heh heh...but he would be a good Keith. There are quite a few good actors out there that would fit the Keith Moon role like it was tailor made for them.
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Post by whoireland on Aug 12, 2009 11:29:39 GMT
i've got hooked on Entourage lately...such a great show Piven steals every scene
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