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Post by Jeroen on Aug 29, 2005 18:08:17 GMT
If, and I say íf, the Who do a tour in 2006 or the near future, I bet everyone has some underappreciated gems that they would like they see (re)appear on Pete and Roger's set list. I'm ignoring the possibility of new songs from a possible new album, for obvious reasons.
So I thought we'd have some fun presenting our own wishful thinking set lists and debating them. So here's mine:
Openers:
Heaven and Hell (instead of Baba)
Can't Explain
Pure and Easy
The Kids Are Alright
Water (Roger's voice is warmed up, but still fresh)
Quad segment:
The Real Me
Punk and the Godfather
The Rock (Stripped down Overture-like, with a simpler backing track)
Love, Reign O'er Me
Acoustic:
Naked Eye (Pete and Roger)
Imagine A Man (Pete and Roger, with occasional back up from bass and drums. Listen to the record and you'll know what I mean.)
Dreaming from the Waist
Eminence Front
Relax
Slip Kid
A Legal Matter
Tommy segment:
Overture
Amazing Journey/Sparks
See Me, Feel Me
Finale:
My Generation + improv, segueing into
Won't Get Fooled Again
'Encore':
Long Live Rock
Looking at this list now (I've thought about for quite a while), I see that it's still quite conservative. I'm anticipating others' ideas!
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Post by dailyrecords on Aug 29, 2005 18:25:55 GMT
I could handle seeing "Dreaming from the Waist" added to the lineup.
Maybe Pete could do a version of "Sunrise" or "Blue, Red and Grey" for his acoustic showcase. The latter can actually be played on a guitar pretty convincingly, if you capo at the 7th fret - or so Whotabs tells me.
I'd also like to see some earlier stuff added into the mix. Maybe "It's Not True" or "Pictures of Lily," assuming Roger can still hit the right notes with his voice.
One note, though, I'd like to see "5.15" remain in the show. It's always been a great live number.
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Post by Tom on Aug 29, 2005 18:57:12 GMT
I would like to see "Sister Disco", "Blue Red And Grey", "Join Together" and "Dance It Away" in the set.
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Post by jimana13 on Aug 29, 2005 19:03:55 GMT
total change .......
but they will play the same because they have zero balls/adventurous spirit/courage in them unlike Stones,
so f*** em
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Post by Jeroen on Aug 29, 2005 19:10:43 GMT
So, any suggestions? Athena? ;D Now that's just plain negativity for negativity's sake.  |
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Post by Ineedanewname on Aug 29, 2005 19:18:50 GMT
I wouldn't say he's being negative for negativity's sake. If you look at The Who's setlist history, it'd be very suprising if a new tour brought any radical rethink in that area.
The band became a live 'greatest hits machine' in the mid-70's. Whichever way you look at it, they are now in the last handful of years of their career, so it ain't likely they're gonna change now.
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Post by Ineedanewname on Aug 29, 2005 19:49:00 GMT
I could handle seeing "Dreaming from the Waist" added to the lineup. Maybe Pete could do a version of "Sunrise" or "Blue, Red and Grey" for his acoustic showcase. The latter can actually be played on a guitar pretty convincingly, if you capo at the 7th fret - or so Whotabs tells me. I'd also like to see some earlier stuff added into the mix. Maybe "It's Not True" or "Pictures of Lily," assuming Roger can still hit the right notes with his voice. One note, though, I'd like to see "5.15" remain in the show. It's always been a great live number. Some good suggestions there. Sunrise would be good...followed by Relax, the latter in the 'live 1968' style! It's defintely time some of the bands earlier stuff was dug out. It's Not True would be great, but I don't know how well it would sit with the rest of the setlist. Maybe The Goods Gone -being a little 'heavier'- would fit better? To be honest, now John's no longer with us I could live without 5:15. A HUGE part of that live for me was his extended bass solo. I'd lose that track and add Punk And Godfather instead, maybe followed by In A Hand Or Face. Other changes? I'd defintely drop Substitute and Can't Explain, and use Who Are You as the opener. I'd also like I Can See For Miles to make an appearance, and an Amazing Journey/Sparks/Water/Naked Eye/The Rock section would be groovy at some point. Then again, with the band's current line-up most of that performance would probably sound pretty cr*p in comparison to how I hear it in my head!  |
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Post by Jeroen on Aug 29, 2005 20:00:18 GMT
Some good suggestions there. Sunrise would be good...followed by Relax, the latter in the 'live 1968' style! To be honest, now John's no longer with us I could live without 5:15. A HUGE part of that live for me was his extended bass solo. I'd lose that track and add Punk And Godfather instead, maybe followed by In A Hand Or Face. Other changes? I'd defintely drop Substitute and Can't Explain, and use Who Are You as the opener. I'd also like I Can See For Miles to make an appearance, and an Amazing Journey/Sparks/Water/Naked Eye/The Rock section would be groovy at some point. II agree about 5:15, that's why I scrapped it. It wouldn't be the same without John. For I Can't Explain I just found new love, so it's still there. By an 'Amazing Journey/Sparks/Water/Naked Eye/The Rock section', do you mean one continuous flow? That would rock. Big time. Let's hope they'll take touring as seriously as that one day again. It could compensate for the fact that they're down to 50% nowadays. |
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Post by wholigan6404 on Aug 30, 2005 4:10:53 GMT
ice, sub, aaa, who are you, new song, goin mobile, water, baba, 515, lrom, a friend is a friend, bbe, new song, dogs, magic bus, ybyb, kids are alright, my gen, wgfa..encore pinball wizard, amazin/sparks, see me feel me.
i like hearing the classics at the concerts even though some of you may find it boring. people go to these concerts and want to hear what the band is mostly known for. once they find a better bass player they could even mix it up more cause pino is the wrong man for the who.
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Post by JillKristen on Aug 30, 2005 5:53:05 GMT
Both Pete and Roger have described their concerts as a 3 part show. It will always include a number of the radio friendly songs that even a non-fan will recognize. If they have new music to promote it will be there also. And finally some of what is considered their more "obscure" songs. What may be considered obscure to a crowd of 50,000, is not going to be all that obscure to us hardcore fans. All that being said, if Pete and Roger were to ask me here is a sample of what I would like to hear:
Radio Friendly/Popular Stuff:
BO
Who Are You
5:15
BBE
Kids are Alright
I Can't Explain
YBYB
Long Live Rock
Bargain
Whatever they pick from Tommy
Lesser Known Stuff:
Music Must Change
Naked Eye
Let's See Action
How Many Friends
Pure and Easy
Getting in Tune
Sea and Sand
Join Together
Cut My Hair
Water
Must end with:
See Me, Feel Me
Also now that Pete has written about his struggles with writing new stuff, can we back off a little about the "same old set" thing? BTW I checked the Stones setlist from the other night and being a casual fan I would say I still knew most of the songs...sort of like they played their greatest hits.
Review and Set List from Hartford Rentschler Field Aug 26, 2005
The set list:
Start Me Up
You Got Me Rocking
She's So Cold
Tumbling Dice
Rough Justice
Ruby Tuesday
Beast Of Burden
All Down The Line
Get Up Stand Up --- Introductions
Infamy (Keith)
The Worst (Keith)
Miss You (to B-stage)
Oh No, Not You Again (B-stage)
Satisfaction (B-stage)
Honky Tonk Women (from B-stage)
Out Of Control
Sympathy For The Devil
Jumping Jack Flash
Brown Sugar
You Can't Always Get What You Want (encore)
It's Only Rock'n Roll (encore
JK
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Post by Ineedanewname on Aug 30, 2005 21:24:41 GMT
I could handle seeing "Dreaming from the Waist" added to the lineup. Maybe Pete could do a version of "Sunrise" or "Blue, Red and Grey" for his acoustic showcase. The latter can actually be played on a guitar pretty convincingly, if you capo at the 7th fret - or so Whotabs tells me. I'd also like to see some earlier stuff added into the mix. Maybe "It's Not True" or "Pictures of Lily," assuming Roger can still hit the right notes with his voice. One note, though, I'd like to see "5.15" remain in the show. It's always been a great live number. Pete won't do Sunrise as Paul Weller wanted to play it at the 2000 RAH show. They couldn't figure it out. Therin lies the simple problem, and one which is simple to fix. An hour spent in a room with the sheet music to refresh the mind, followed by a few hours rehearsal with the band, and Sunrise would be sorted. But why go to all that trouble when you can get away with dusting off 'I Can't Explain' and 'Baba O'Riley'.... |
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Post by dailyrecords on Aug 30, 2005 21:30:09 GMT
Well, the problem with performing "Sunrise" at the RAH, as evidenced by the short video clip of Pete and Paul struggling with it, was with Weller himself. He couldn't get the chord changes down - neither can I, actually.
Pete looked like he could play it fine, and he even got the vocals up there. That was five years ago, though, and his vocals chords seem to have aged since then.
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Post by sara on Aug 30, 2005 22:42:50 GMT
I Don't Even Know Myself I Can See For Miles Too Much of Anything Young Man Blues I'm Free Shakin' All Over Naked Eye ( I'd want Pete & Rog to do that personally for me!) Baby Don't You Do It Pictures of Lily Tattoo Fortune Teller A Quick One (While He's Away) Let's See Action Magic Bus Gettin' In Tune Love Ain't For Keeping Water Put The Money Down Goin' Mobile And perhaps some solo numbers...After the Fire Let My Love Open The Door The Pride You Hide A Little Is Enough Giving It All Away  |
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Post by d on Aug 31, 2005 0:57:19 GMT
---at the start of the show, after whole who and half who fans have put their 200 bucks down, i guess it's unrealistic to think the band could do a "who" type-show, without substitute, can't explain, and half a dozen other classics...i wonder if the problem isn't so much what pete and roger do play, as what they don't...there's no good reason they can't have a basic setlist every night and a revolving pocket of other songs to perform from show to show as well, like pictures of lily, i'm free, slip kid, squeezebox, christmas, the acid queen, goin' mobile, love ain't for keeping, and the song is over (etc)...white city fighting, english boy, and even let my love open the door would be welcome additions from the solo catalogue---------
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Post by Ineedanewname on Aug 31, 2005 2:05:42 GMT
I really wouldn't be interested in hearing solo compositions in a Who show, that's what Pete Townshend gigs are for.
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Post by jimana13 on Aug 31, 2005 7:38:17 GMT
Therin lies the simple problem, and one which is simple to fix. An hour spent in a room with the sheet music to refresh the mind, followed by a few hours rehearsal with the band, and Sunrise would be sorted. But why go to all that trouble when you can get away with dusting off 'I Can't Explain' and 'Baba O'Riley'.... Yes indeed.... you would actaully need to rehearse more that 5 minutes. I woulnt care at all what they played during the tour if they even once or twice had done a show with something else but as it has been it would reguire more than 5 mn practice that is impossible.. so f**kk the lame lazy a**holes..... |
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Post by JillKristen on Aug 31, 2005 18:52:41 GMT
it would reguire more than 5 mn practice that is impossible.. so f**kk the lame lazy a**holes..... You know I usually avoid getting confrontational and believe people are allowed their opinions, but I really think that comment is way out of line. First of all these guys are in their 60's and have been pretty much doing their job for 40 years. Most of us would be looking to retire at this point. Many fans have expressed their gripes with setlists of late, but I see no reason for referring to them as you did. JK |
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Post by whiskyman on Aug 31, 2005 22:25:12 GMT
so f**kk the lame lazy a**holes..... Bang out of line! Do you actually like The Who ? You sure don't respect them |
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Post by iputthebootin on Aug 31, 2005 23:08:46 GMT
A couple of years ago comedian Jasper Carrot done a series of shows here in birmingham and let the audience choose exactly what material he performed by setting up an online suggestion and voting system a couple of months before hand and getting people to vote for what they wanted to hear. Then the stuff with the most votes he did over a series of nights. Maybe Pete and Roger should turn a section of the shows over to the hardcore of fans by posting similar requests on forums like these or via his own eelpie website and that way we could get some lesser known stuff played and the average fan still gets the hits as well.
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Post by whiskyman on Aug 31, 2005 23:20:00 GMT
A couple of years ago comedian Jasper Carrot done a series of shows here in birmingham and let the audience choose exactly what material he performed by setting up an online suggestion and voting system a couple of months before hand and getting people to vote for what they wanted to hear. Then the stuff with the most votes he did over a series of nights. Maybe Pete and Roger should turn a section of the shows over to the hardcore of fans by posting similar requests on forums like these or via his own eelpie website and that way we could get some lesser known stuff played and the average fan still gets the hits as well. The Stones did that on the last tour , its a good idea. And no solo stuff. |
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Post by BillyBill on Sept 1, 2005 1:43:25 GMT
I'm a sucker for these sort of topics. Don't know why. Really I don't want them to tour until they have a new album out. I want to hear more new stuff. But, not knowing as of right now how that would sound, here's my current ideal setlist: Who Are You Substitute Pinball Wizard I Can See For Miles The Punk and the Godfather Slip Kid Real Good Looking Boy Baba O’Riley The Song is Over A Quick One While He’s Away Amazing Journey/Sparks Sunrise (or Goin Mobile or Sensation or Drowned or whatever other solo Pete thing...he should alternate night to night) Imagine a Man Behind Blue Eyes Sister Disco Dreaming From the Waist Join Together Shakin’ All Over My Generation Old Red Wine (whole song) Won’t Get Fooled Again Magic Bus Young Man Blues I'm thinking of some sort of segue from Sister Disco into Dreaming From the Waist...a "songs Pete hates" medley of sorts  |
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Post by JD on Sept 1, 2005 4:01:38 GMT
I really wouldn't be interested in hearing solo compositions in a Who show, that's what Pete Townshend gigs are for. I agree totally. JD |
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Post by jimana13 on Sept 1, 2005 6:59:38 GMT
so f**kk the lame lazy a**holes..... Bang out of line! Do you actually like The Who ? You sure don't respect them excatly because I love the "Who". If I didn't love the "Who" I wouldn't pay any atttention to the subject matter.. And no, I don't have that much respect for most part what they have done live since Tommy/Quadrophenia.... |
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Post by Jeroen on Sept 1, 2005 11:48:37 GMT
Bang out of line! Do you actually like The Who ? You sure don't respect them excatly because I love the "Who". If I didn't love the "Who" I wouldn't pay any atttention to the subject matter.. And no, I don't have that much respect for most part what they have done live since Tommy/Quadrophenia.... Still, this was supposed to be a fun, speculative thread. If you really want to vent your spleen, make your own. I'm still curious about your ideal setlist, though. |
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Post by COLTOM on Sept 1, 2005 17:45:46 GMT
well the Stones just keep re-hashing the same riff (at least since Some Girls) so does it really matter?
"5:15" is my favorite but for a change I'd love to hear "Drowned", "Punk Meets the Godfater" or "the Real Me".
Frankly I'd love to hear more songs that aren't radio-friendly. I think they need to play something from "Who By Numbers" - that is their most under-rated album (oops, I'm dating myself...which by the way is completely different from having a date with myself....but I digress). "Dreaming from the Waist" (though according to PT in Maximum R&B, he hates that song). "Imagine a Man", "Hand or Face", even "Success Story" as a tribute of sorts.
They did do "I Can See for Miles" at the first Boston show in 2002, and it was the weakest song of the night - to me that is. No one seems to play the chorus like Moon did and when you play it with a straight beat it changes the song completely. Its funny how "pop-ish" it sounds when played that way.
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Post by JillKristen on Sept 1, 2005 19:05:18 GMT
I'd also love to hear stuff from Who By Numbers...well except for Sqeezebox. It just doesn't do it for me.
JK
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Post by sara on Sept 1, 2005 21:01:16 GMT
I'd also love to hear stuff from Who By Numbers...well except for Sqeezebox. It just doesn't do it for me. JK I like "Squeeze Box". Roger would hold my hand singing the "Squeeze me, come on and squeeze me..." part. Not only that, Hanson would do a great duet with him on that. |
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Post by iputthebootin on Sept 1, 2005 22:56:22 GMT
i think you're camping out on the edge of reality.
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Post by sara on Sept 2, 2005 20:22:48 GMT
i think you're camping out on the edge of reality.  ;D |
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Post by d on Sept 4, 2005 17:02:16 GMT
----IF more new studio recordings are released, despite that the band played both their latest songs on their last tour, rglb and some of orw, how many newbies could they fit into a show, and should they focus on recording and performing singles rather than album tracks?...orw is not really a single and rglb is a fair try, but can they even record more hit tunes like who are you, listening to you, and you better you bet?...if not, then can the two be expected to perform new songs that ain't "hits," and be able to carry them off on stage?...it seems to me they have played tommy to death since '69, and they have given quad a decent try with the '73 shows (although too quickly abandoning it imo, through neglect, no '74 tour) and the '97 tour, albeit the latter with "special guests"...of course they have played wgfa and baba at will, and given bargain and lately relay a great shake, and trot out love ain't for keeping some and pure and easy a little bit, but i would pay to see them put together, yes, yet another concept tour, if they did the material from the who's next/lifehouse sessions, in a who context, unlike the pt dvd of the same...on the heels of the lerner multi dvd who history project though, it would seem to indicate to me that maybe a new cd and/or a lfehouse tour would be 2nd and 3rd fiddle to another greatest hits tour-----
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